mixed rewrite mod and persian UTF-8 encoding

AmirAbbas

hello

i decided to install mixed rewrite mod in my forum
persian language is not supported in mixed rewrite mod
but i can use english titles for my forums

i want to know can it be effective for my language ?
my forum is a forum about webdesign and i will use many english word
in my posts (at least in web design forums i will use lot of english words)
but in other part of forum like free descussion forum there isn't any english word
and another question

mixed rewrite mod only affect on forums URL.
topics URL are like simple rewrite mod
with this mod only few URL will change ( i mean only forums URL is different from simple rewrite mod )
but you said the effect of this mod in indexing is very good Rolling Eyes

dcz

Well, off course it's a cool thing to use good keywords in URLs linked to related content.

There would be no real point to inject English keywords in URLs while the site never uses it.

And the mixed mod Rewrite will as well inject categories Titles in URLs, which is another occasion to show keyword in URLs.

Then, there is something I must tell you before we proceed, is that I never installed a phpBB forum running UTF-8, and I know few things about char-sets, I must admit Rolling Eyes

But, if you can set up a local test server, it won't be long to see how we could tweak the format_url() function to deal with such settings and if it's possible to mix Persian and English words in Forum title.

I say this because it seems to me that php does not care about utf-8 or Latin for most Latin chars, as all end up coded in ASCII and many characters are bi compatible, but not all.
SO for English words it's no problem I think if they are coded in UTF8, but with Persian I don't know.

We need to test.

Install a local test board and try it as is, tell me what happens to titles, English, mixed English and Persian, and Persian only.

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AmirAbbas

i mean that i want use only english word in title
just english

i tested migration of persian and english words
persian words will replaced with u character

for example i used a persian and a english word

dcz

Then it seems it working right away, if you only use English words.

But I think we could then try to totally filter Persian words so that you still can use a good Persian Keyword in the forum titles, they'll be associated with the URL as being part of the txt link, which can be a good thing.

If you are interested, try those three cases :

English-Persian and English-Persian-English to see if they always get replaced by u, and try to many cases, more than one word etc to see if special case can be found.

Any way, it's no big deal, because even if all cases cannot be handled if you mix Persian and English, then, we'll for sure be able to mixe them nicely a long as we avoid exceptions (if any).

Because it's only the admin here to choose Very Happy

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AmirAbbas

i used combination of persian and english words
see this titl and urls

the titles shows in LTR direction. if you want to see the title in correct way please
copy them and paste them in windows notepad, then right click on notepad and choose "right to left reading order"

as you can see some persian word will come together and the hyphen between them remove

dcz

Movable type is not GPL, so I cannot inspire Wink

Then, I was thinking about two path to go for.

The fast and easy one, where we just filter the first "u-" for example, or one or two more simple case allowing you to build simple mixed titles right now, or, all of them if you manage not to use any and prefer to ad many Persian words in forum titles.

Then, to think about a more general method, it's true I could implement some code to check if the url is empty and if so statically rewrite it, it's a good idea.

Just need to figure out how to deal with all cases while filtering titles, could just be a

AmirAbbas

OK

i installed advance rewrite mod today
my phpBB installed in folder with name persia
the URL for this title

dcz

AmirAbbas

thanks

AmirAbbas

hello

excuse me, i want to start my forum in my new domain
im willing to use advance rewrite mod and i know that you don't have time

i must wait or i can install my forum with simple rewrite mod and after that i upgrade it to advance rewrtie mod ? Wink

dcz

Well it's not that easy to go from static to dynamic mod rewrite without arm, because we don't know the topic title in the .htaccess.

I'd say, wait few more days while I search for a fix Wink

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AmirAbbas

OK, thank you Wink

dcz · Last edited by dcz on Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:23 am; edited 1 time in total

All right, I have found what could be a solution, but there is a limitation.

With this, all numbers will be cut off the URL, which is not this bad, but it's not perfect.

the problem is طراحی web is coded like this in fact, look the html source code : 1591-1585-1575-1581-1740-web

See the point.

And char-set conversion are tricky here, I am still searching, but it's not that simple and I have few knowledge of char-sets.

So here are the required code change to do so :

Open :

[EDIT] Was not quite it it seems Very Happy

See bellow.

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dcz · Last edited by dcz on Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:22 am; edited 1 time in total

All right I think I have got it Wink

So forget about the suggested changes and do this instead, still in the function.php code :

Find :

AmirAbbas

ok

i searched in session.php . icouldn't find that part of codes in session.php
i think this part of code is in functions.php

i add that two line of code in functions.php
nothing happend again. i have all of that u and o in my urls Rolling Eyes

and another thing. persian characters are not only numbers

for example for this sectence